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Is Yeshua really Yahweh?

2/22/2016

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Over the years, one of the arguments I've heard in attempts to prove that "Yeshua is really Yahweh," is that Yahweh had to die in order to be able to re-marry the nation of Israel. I've even heard it said that this is the argument that clinches the belief. I heard this come again just the other day, so I thought I would comment on it here.

People who promote this basically say (in a nutshell): "Yahweh was married to the nation of Israel. Yahweh later divorced Israel, because of her harlotry (with other gods). After the divorce she continued her harlotry, and based upon Deuteronomy 24:1-4, Yahweh could not have taken her back as His wife again. But, He could die and be resurrected, making it possible for Him to remarry Israel (based upon Romans 7:1-4)."

I must say that it seems odd to me to try to prove that Yeshua is Yahweh by piecing Scriptures together like this (arguing from reasoning instead of direct scriptures). I would suggest that if we want to know who Yeshua is, we start with the Bible verses that specifically address the issue. Luke 1:26-38 and Matthew 16:13-18 are a good place to start. I believe anyone who reads those verses (among many others) with no "axe to grind," will easily see that Yeshua is Yahweh's Son.

​Here are 5 reasons why this idea of "dying to remarry" just does not work at all.

1. Yahweh's marriage relationship with Israel is strictly metaphorical. It is certainly not like the marriage I have with my wife (Yahweh didn't ask "Israel's father" for her hand in marriage). We can know this further by looking at Exodus 4:22-23 where Yahweh calls the same people (Israel) His son. So which is it? Is Israel's Yahweh's bride or Yahweh's son? Is Yahweh married to His own son? Ridiculous I know, but these points show that Yahweh's relationship with Israel can be described as both a Father and a Husband because they are metaphorical relationships, not literal ones. Literally, Yahweh is our Creator and we are His creation.
 
2. The law of Deuteronomy 24 is a law that Yahweh gave for His people Israel to abide by. We should not take that law given for human beings and try to apply it to Yahweh who is Spirit. The law is speaking about a man of Israel divorcing a woman of Israel, and then she being allowed to go and be another man's wife. If then this second husband divorces her or dies, she is not allowed to go back and marry her former husband. How in the world does this apply to Yahweh? First of all, Yahweh cannot die (I'll get more into that in the next point). Secondly, if hypothetically He did die, then to whom does Israel marry? A resurrected Yahweh? How does that follow the law of Deuteronomy 24? The law in Deuteronomy is talking about the first husband divorcing her, and then she marrying another man who is not her first husband. To apply all of this to a metaphorical relationship that Yahweh has with His people is absurd.
 
3. Yahweh is immortal (1 Timothy 6:16). Immortal carries the meaning of "not able to die." Immortality is what Yeshua obtained at his resurrection from the dead, and it is what we are seeking to obtain in the future as well. Now that Yeshua has been resurrected to immortality, is it still possible for him to die? How then can the word immortality even have a meaning to it? To say that Yahweh can die is to say that He is not really immortal. We would then have to say that Yeshua, although immortal, still has the possibility of dying again, and also that we (when we obtain immortality) will still have the possibility of being able to die. All of this makes the word immortal not really have a meaning at all. If we start changing the meaning of words we can come up with any teaching we want to come up with.
 
4. I've heard some try to use Romans 7:1-4 in pushing this doctrine of Yahweh having to die to remarry Israel, but go read Romans 7. Paul is talking about a woman being bound to her husband as long as he lives. It's like my wife and I. She is my wife. If she tries to "marry" another man, she is an adulteress. But, if I die, she is free to get married to another man because I'm no longer in the picture (alive). Paul uses this as a means to get across his point that we have become dead to the law through the death of Messiah. In other words, the law's death penalty had us bound, but through Yeshua's death we are set free to be married (metaphorical here) to him who is raised from the dead. Married here literally carries the idea of "attached to" rather than wedded to, but Paul uses married to go along with the point he just made. There is zero here about Yahweh having to die in order to remarry Israel. In Romans 7 it is us who die to the penalty of the law through the one who died in our place, Yeshua.
 
5. Some have asked how we can be both the bride of Yahweh and the bride of Yeshua. The answer is simple. Seeing that the relationship is metaphorical and not literal, there is not a problem. In the same way Israel can be Yahweh's son (Exodus 4:22-23) and bride (Ex. 19:1-6) and it not be a problem, because these are not literal relationships. It's not like one woman is married to both a man and his son in the natural. That would be adultery. The relationships that Yahweh and Yeshua have with us aren't literal in this sense.

As I said before, instead of trying to reason our way into believe that Yeshua is Yahweh from texts that do not say such, why not go to texts that are explicitly about who he is? 
"You will conceive and give birth to a son, and you will call his name Yeshua. He will be great and will be called the Son of the Most High, and [Yahweh] Almighty will give him the throne of his father David." ~ Gabriel (to the virgin Mary; Luke 1:31-32)

"But you. Who do you say that I am?" ~ Yeshua (to Peter)
"You are the Messiah, the Son of the Living Almighty." ~ Peter (to Yeshua)
"You are blessed, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father in heaven." ~ Yeshua (to Peter; Matthew 16:15-17)

"This is my beloved Son. I take delight in him!" ~ Yahweh (speaking about Yeshua; Matthew 3:17)

"Rabbi, You are the Son of [Yahweh]! You are the King of Israel!" ~ Nathanael (to Yeshua)
​"Do you believe because I told you I saw you under the fig tree? You will see greater things than this." ~ Yeshua (to Nathanael; John 1:49-50)
11 Comments
Daniel
2/22/2016 06:19:49 am

Very well explained Matthew.

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Brad Lewis link
3/21/2017 07:29:59 pm

Do you believe Jesus Christ is good?

Quotes are KJV

And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments. - Matthew 19:16+

Mar_10:18  And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

Luk_18:19  And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? none is good, save one, that is, God.

Acts 10:38  How God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with the Holy Ghost and with power: who went about doing good, and healing all that were oppressed of the devil; for God was with him.

Joh_10:33  The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God.

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Franklin Eugene Rhoads link
8/18/2017 01:24:15 pm

Yehoshua [Jesus] is called "Yehoshua [Jesus] the righteous" in the 'New Testament.'

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JC link
9/30/2022 09:20:59 pm

The significance of Yeshua saying why call me good only one is good, God (Yahweh) is that he separated himself from Yahweh, which is a way to teach trinitarians their folly. However most entrenched trinitarians and intellectuals will make things up to justify Yeshua’s comments. The trinity is a mock from below. However, his separation is as the love a Son has for his Father, honoring his Father by such statement.

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Lisa V.
3/21/2017 10:45:09 pm

Hebrews 1: 8
But of the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, is forever and ever, the scepter of uprightness is the scepter of your kingdom.
-God is speaking to Jesus

John 27-29
27Then Jesus said to Thomas, “Put your finger here and look at My hands. Reach out your hand and put it into My side. Stop doubting and believe.” 28Thomas replied, “My Lord and my God!” 29Jesus said to him, “Because you have seen Me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen, and yet have believed.”…

John 7: 37-38
37“You have already seen Him, Jesus answered. “He is the One speaking with you.” 38“Lord, I believe,” he said. And he worshiped Jesus.…

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JC link
9/30/2022 09:33:55 pm

Thomas actually said “The Lord of me and the God of me”. Which this version speaks of two separate beings. Had Thomas meant Yeshua was both Yeshua and Yahweh, he would have said:

The lord and God of me.

But Thomas knew who Yeshua was, he just didn’t believe he had risen until he felt the damage.

Don’t be a doubting Thomas.

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Lori Ann Lejeune
8/24/2020 09:27:18 am

Help me understand, Please! Yahshua cried out on the stake "Father why have you forsakened me?" and he would leave the Prophets for hours in the evening Praying to Yahweh. If he is God/ Yahweh was he crying out to himself & praying for hours to himself? Genuine question I need clear definitive answer to. Please help me, I truely want to understand. Shalom umvorach😇

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Matthew Janzen
8/24/2020 11:54:46 am

The quick answer is: because Yeshua is not God, he’s God’s Son. This is why he cried out “Eloi Eloi“ on the cross; he has a God over him. Yeshua prayed as a man speaking to God (which is what prayer is). Scriptures that use the word God of Yeshua are using it of him in a secondary sense, as a mighty one among his people, similar to Moses (Exodus 7:1), the king of Israel (Psalm 45), and the judges of Israel (Psalm 82). Even angels are called gods (Psalm 8). Yeshua is the Son of God as the Father revealed to Peter in Matthew 16:13-18.

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JC link
9/30/2022 09:45:14 pm

Dear Lori:

Yeshua is not psychotic, he always prayed to another, his and our Father. Yeshua is not now, not yesterday and not tomorrow Yahweh, he is the Son of Yahweh which he always contended. If you are dealing with the trinity and that is why you ask this question, the trinity is a mock from below. It has no basis in reality and was designed by men over hundreds of years and culminating in a meeting by Constantine in 325AD. Yeeshua was murdered by saying he was the Son of Yahweh, had he espoused that he was Yahweh, they would have thought him crazy.

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Sherry
5/23/2022 03:20:17 pm

Yahweh is not Yeshua. Yahweh is Satan. See the same story being told in two different books of the Bible. The vengeful God of the Old Testament was Yahweh or Satan. Yeshua is Jesus, our Savior

1st Chronicles 21 = 21 Satan rose up against Israel and incited David to take a census of Israel.

2 So David said to Joab and the commanders of the troops, “Go and count the Israelites from Beersheba to Dan. Then report back to me so that I may know how many there are.”

3 But Joab replied, “May the Lord multiply his troops a hundred times over. My lord the king, are they not all my lord’s subjects? Why does my lord want to do this? Why should he bring guilt on Israel?”

2 Samuel 24 - David's Census
1Again the anger of Yahweh was kindled against Israel, and he incited David against them, saying, “Go, count Israel and Judah.”

2The king said to Joab the commander of the army who was with him, “Now go through all the tribes of Israel, from Dan to Beer-sheba, and number the people so that I can know the number of the people.”
3Joab said to the king, “Now may Yahweh your God add to the people 100 times, however many they are, and may the eyes of my lord the king see it. But why does my lord the king desire this thing?”

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JC link
9/30/2022 09:54:29 pm

Yahweh has never been haSatan. haSatan rebelled against Yahweh and was delivered here, along with his minions, some of which were sent into the pigs at Yeshua’s command to “go”. Lucifer conjured up (free will) the desire, through pride, to challenge Yahweh to his throne, he failed and pays the eternal condemnation that will soon befall him. Meanwhile, many in the world do his bidding. Don’t throw your pearls before swine.

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